Taylor Swift remained cryptic when asked about that red scarf.

Speaking at the 2022 Toronto International Film Festival on Sept. 9 to promote her 10-minute short film All Too Well, the singer spoke about the scarf she references in the song, which many of her fans have long suspected is about her ex, Jake Gyllenhaal, who she briefly dated in 2010. In the short film, Sadie Sink wears a red scarf.

“The scarf is a metaphor,” Swift told a panel audience at the event, “and we turned it red because red is a very important color in this album, which is called Red.”

She continued, drawing laughs, “And, I think when I say it’s a metaphor, I’m just going to stop, and I’m going to say, thanks for the incredible question, whoever asked it. You’ve really taken us for a ride.”

The original version of “All Too Well” includes the lyrics, “And I left my scarf there at your sister’s house / And you’ve still got it in your drawer, even now.”

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